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The Discussion Of the Month


In my previous post, I had suggested a topic for discussion.
I would like to deliberate my views on the same today.


"Whatever They may be In public Life,Whatever their relations with men,in their relations with women,all men are rapists and that's all they are.They rape us with their eyes,their laws,their codes."
- Marilyn French,Writer
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I will say that this statement is partially correct only, because i don't agree with the word rape in this particular quote.
I agree men made various laws, they laid down a bulk of code of conduct to be followed by women,especially in the Indian Society.
Also the eyes part.For centuries women have been treated just like an object of lust, a virgin to be laid or a wife to produce heirs.As the sentence correctly says, whatever men be in public life or social or professional life, from inside most of them are the same.
But the writer used a very strong word rape, which i think is totally uncalled for.Women were exploited in the past,because they allowed themselves to be exploited.They slept quietly when their husbands laid awake on the beds of whores.They remained silent when they were imprisoned in the unjust rules and regulations. They Strive hard to be Moralistic and Ideal wives,mothers,sisters, and encouraged immorality of their husbands,sons and brothers.
And when I see the present scenario,the girls of today, take their new social status for granted and in the process have become more submissive to men.
A magazine report i read, told a story of a girl who committed suicide for the guy whom she loved didn't love her.Another Girl I came across, who had undergone a surgery of some sorts [I don't recall the details] to please her boyfriend both of them aged 16.
There was another 17 year girl who pestered her male friend to come and stay with her for a couple of days since her parents were away.The guy was disturbed and approached me for help.A girl taking a lead,proposing a guy for date or marriage is no longer a new thing in our society.Even if you study the patterns of rising pre-martial sex,its the woman who is taking the initiative but opts for the submissive role in the act.In most cases these are the findings.
Till date the liberal Indian society has not come in terms with concept of virtual world and girls having male friends online.
Laws, the laws like dowry made for women are being grossly misused.Most of the laws made to protect women rights are witnessing high rates of misuse.Why blame men for that?
Its True men, treated women in a wrong manner.But see the way women reacted to the codes and laws made for them.No its not rape.It is never a rape.
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Comments

Priya Joyce said…
yes wat u say is very true but just bcoz women have become like tat tit can't be said tat men are no longer responsible for the rapes.
Both are but i have discussed this topic on my blog taking another point of view will post it soon.
September 20, 2008 at 6:44 AM
Kartz said…
Hmmm... Will put down my thoughts soon. Glad you kicked it up.

Good 'un.

Peace.
September 20, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Si_Lee said…
The act of rape existed much before ur laws and societies dear .. don't blame laws for the evil; in man/woman .... and btw tusshar ... fine a girl underwent an operation or invited a guy over ... so ? ? what ?? why is it an issue ? Or are indian values the only sensible ones in the world ... lets draw a line here and make sure while discussing such issues we dont land up judging people ... rape is an offence .... cannot even call it an animal act because even amongst animals there are rules ... dont cite changing traditions as a reason for that or as a reason to now share the burden on both boys and girls ...
those who are crooked shall be whether they see crookedness in the world are not ..
September 20, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Tushar Mangl said…
You all are using the term rape in an entirely different context.
Sid, Read the quote again man.
Priya, you are right, men are responsible too for the state of women.
Kartz Waiting for your opinion.
Sid, you read the whole post in too much hurry.
September 20, 2008 at 6:12 PM
Si_Lee said…
@ tusshar ..
apologies .. i realise i strayed .... he he sorry but hwever one line is still relevant in what i said .."and btw tusshar ... fine a girl underwent an operation or invited a guy over ... so ? ? what ?? why is it an issue ? Or are indian values the only sensible ones in the world ... lets draw a line here and make sure while discussing such issues we dont land up judging people ... "

and as far as the quote goes well ... i will wait watch and then write
September 21, 2008 at 12:06 AM
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