Pink Chaddi doesnt suit me

  • I never support separatists for their narrow minded ideologies and the barbarian methods they use to implement it. Particularly when they beat women, going to pub, I felt it is totally inhuman.
  • I remember reading 'pub going broad/ forward women'. I cant call a woman broad minded or forward just because she goes to pub. Being forward is different and it takes a lot. Though I severely condemn the act of beating women who goes to pub, I cant support them to get the freedom to go to pub as the cause is not noble.(But the episode of sending pink chaddi is very funny).
  • I am not particularly against pub going ladies but I wouldn’t approve of few people who pretend to follow western culture because they think westerners are well mannered and their culture is superior to Indian culture. I have been with lots of western friends and I love and cherish their culture but we need to understand every culture by its pros and cons.
  • What is a culture? When human race begun to live in groups, the leader or philosopher or ruler should have laid a set of rules to bring order in the group or to take the group one step forward in life or for his own selfishness. The rules that were made by wise people and which were more appealing stayed long enough to survive the current AD.
  • Long long ago (so long ago :)) western people explored the external life for their happiness, while people inIndia explored the world which was inside a human being, to achieve the same. The people who did that were called as saints. Since the rulers of India had trusted their wisdom, they created a new post called Rajaguru and every decision was made in approval of them. I believe most of the Indian culture shaped through this.
  • Because it is handled by variety of people these many years, the philosophies of the culture were distorted naturally. Few well thought interactive lessons became mere rituals. Few sects of people, to ensure their suvival, added some unnecessary procedures using people's fear. Few of the esteemed procedures were treated as barbaric as there is no one to explain the reason behind that.
  • If you prefer better management of external life you need to choose western way of life. If you are interested in finding the real meaning of life and exploring the inner self, Indian culture would be the best. But if we follow Indian culture, we should be brave enough to question all the nonsense that it has accumulated over the years or else we would fail in understanding the core.
  • Two points we need to remember though. There is no culture inferior or superior to one another. But If we follow something, we need to follow it fully and only after understanding it clearly. We should not follow it just because ‘Johnny follows and me too’. And also we can’t keep one leg on Indian culture and another on western as few people here do now. That is really disgusting.

Bharathi

What to say. I keep changing every day.

7 comments:

A M said...

I really agree to the contents of this post.
Especially the point where you say that some ppl think that if women go to pubs, they are broad minded and stuff.
Great thoughtful piece of work here

Bharathi said...

thanks pal. your comment would encourage me to post more.

Towards reclamation said...

Why is going to a PUB not noble ?? research on Indian culture .. Indian woman till late 19hundreds used to smoke hookah and other stuff and that was a routine ...

Westerners are not more or less civilised agreed .. but why do you think that we are aping the west if we go to a pub.. grow beyond what the media projects .. grow beyond generalizations which are rarely based on facts these days ..

Kamasutra, the status of a vaishya .. the philosophy behind kama and moh .. all Indian .. You are wrong when you demarcate the two cultures almost as precisely as though there exist only 2, the indian and the western ones... by classifying their approach a s one to uncover the external world and the other the internal world ..Spirituality is not about reticence ...well not wholly about it ..

True no culture is same no culture is reater but every one great .. who gets the right to question whom ere ?? none of us .. our culture aint all that great .. it has its own huge short comings .. you being a Woman should know, I having grown up in a society here have seen ....

At the end of the day lets refrain from thinking about our culture and their culture .. I would go by Gandhiji's mantra .. Do any deed if you think it shall benefit the needy and not harm your fellow human being .. beyond tht whether my to be wife goes or does not go to a pub is no one elses business but hers .. and whether the act is noble or not .. it is no ones place to be the judge of that ...

It's a gud post though and don mind me .. the tone may seem a lil aggressive but thts they way I get .. no offence meant dear .. keep posting ..

Bharathi said...

@ Towards reclamation: - Firstly I would like to thank you for going against my line of thought. This helps me sharpen my ideas. May I request you to go through my blog www.clickbharathi.blogspot.com. I would value your comments a lot.

YOU:
Why is going to a PUB not noble ??

ME:
Whether it is male or female, taking alcohol by any means is not good for health. It effects the central nervous system causing intoxication and helps to let loose ones own control. If consumed excessive on a continuous basis it affects the liver and cause death. It also accounts for more road accidents. Why would I call this noble?

YOU:
research on Indian culture .. Indian woman till late 19hundreds used to smoke hookah and other stuff and that was a routine ...

ME:
Being done in 19th century is not good enough for me to call it as noble. Even if it is done in 16th century I still call a rape, brutal.

YOU: Westerners are not more or less civilised agreed .. but why do you think that we are aping the west if we go to a pub.. grow beyond what the media projects .. grow beyond generalizations which are rarely based on facts these days ..

ME:
Going to night clubs, drinking and dancing untill mid night. Living together before marriage. I havent seen all these deeply rooted to Indian culture. But I have seen this in western culture. First of all you need to understand that I am not a cultural fanatic afraid that Indian culture will be spoiled if we let these things happen. If you observe a child intensely, you can sense, she would like to imitate everything that elders do, the activity, words, tone etc. If you follow something, having a very positive perception in mind and without analysing pros and cons, I call this childish. I am worried about the increase of so many adult children. I have seen the pride in their eyes for going to night parties more than the enjoyment that they get out of it.

YOU:
Kamasutra, the status of a vaishya .. the philosophy behind kama and moh .. all Indian .. You are wrong when you demarcate the two cultures almost as precisely as though there exist only 2, the indian and the western ones... by classifying their approach a s one to uncover the external world and the other the internal world ..Spirituality is not about reticence ...well not wholly about it ..

ME:
I have not said anything about sex in my post. that is a whole different topic worth a post. I dont understand what you mean by kama and moh... Yes you are right there are not only two cultures in this world. I took now dominating western culture and our won culture for this post. I agree spirituality is not about reticence and I believe it is quite opposite to that. This again a big topic worth a post.

YOU:
True no culture is same no culture is reater but every one great .. who gets the right to question whom ere ?? none of us .. our culture aint all that great .. it has its own huge short comings .. you being a Woman should know, I having grown up in a society here have seen ....

ME:
Yes indeed. I haven’t said that one culture is superior to other. I am not a woman by the way.

"Do any deed if you think it shall benefit the needy and not harm your fellow human being" wonderful words. Do you think going to pub satisfies any of the above? And this is the reason why I said it is not noble. I didn’t say it is evil. I am against it because it is not good for health and for the immature post consumption behaviours.

I don’t see you as an aggressive person. I like people say it straight. Thanks again.

Towards reclamation said...

OK ..
you said it EXCESSIVE consumption ... going to a pub does not lead to tht .. drink 4 litres coffee a day you are bound to die sooner .. so is the case with tea .. excessive consumption is deterimental ... not the act of going to a pub once in a while we=here you would consume at max 200 to 300 ml of alcohol ..

by statin g hookahs i was nt trying to say it is gud .. i was saying tht alcohol etc are nt a gift of the western culture...

Yes children do imitate .. tell me what went wrong .. and when .. howcome we havent imitaated our elders and started goin to pubs .. ??? beyond a point those imitations dont count .. when you are out in the world fighting your battles on your own .. you get moulded .. you may win or you may give in .. tht makes you tht decides you .. tht tells you how much control you exercise over PERVERSITY OF WILL..
Dear this is your concern ...
The blind fascination for aping the west is like doing smthing you dnt fully understand and again nt doing it completely ... thereby leading to perversity of will ... tht causes problems .. kama and moh are more to do with desires of a man .. it's symbolic .. even vaishya .. i used it to show tht our culture has had its share of trying to explore the external..

the thing is when we are brought up we are moulded in a certain klin when we try to mould ourselves according to some other klin at a stage where we are no more elastic we run the risk of crumbling down .. here is where the perversity of will comes ..
I have control over my liking to alcohol .. i know how it can harm me so i restrict myself to drink within safety limits .. some do others dont.. but for those who have tht perversity they will always find the means to tht end ..

Towards reclamation said...

and i am sry fr the gender mistake ..


apologies ..

Bharathi said...

I don't want to limit our arguments to find out whether going to pub is an act of copying western culture or not. I hope you would agree that there is a breed of people who want to imitate westerners by all means they could and they feel excessively proud of doing so. I don't agree that any time. Only those people who think so low of themselves would like to associate themselves with those whom they think as superior. The people who think themselves low will not do any good to themselves and society. That is what I am against.

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